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Beau Peep Notice Board => Just a Fort => Topic started by: Mince on July 19, 2010, 10:00:42 AM
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I checked my own rough sketch
You promised some time ago to show us some of your sketches. So?
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I checked my own rough sketch
You promised some time ago to show us some of your sketches. So?
Talking to yourself, Mincey?
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He's even started picking on himself.
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Okay, let's try that again.
I checked my own rough sketch
You promised some time ago to show us some of your sketches. So?
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Well?
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I mean you did promise and all.
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Yes or no?
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Oh, for god's sake, take your time, why don't you!
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Okay, fine, be like that! Forget I even asked!
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The trouble with all this is that I'd have to ask my wife to scan some samples on her computer and then email them to somebody like Tarks to post them on here. I'll think about it but, in the end, I probably won't be arsed.
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Post them to me and I'll put them on.
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(Why do I get a sense of deja vu here?)
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Oooh, look, everyone - the PE teacher knows French.
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With Roger's consent, here is a sketch he sent me to draw up as a joint entry in the early days of the weekly caption competition we now both enter in our own rights. I did try to convince him at the time that he should enter using his own drawings (which I've always liked) and this was reinforced when he posted the following sketch after the competition was over, and everyone rushed to say they would have voted for it if he'd posted his version, whereas the one I'd drawn only managed runner-up spot. :-\
Actually, I agreed with them...
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With Roger's consent, here is a sketch he sent me to draw up as a joint entry in the early days of the weekly caption competition we now both enter in our own rights. I did try to convince him at the time that he should enter using his own drawings (which I've always liked) and this was reinforced when he posted the following sketch after the competition was over, and everyone rushed to say they would have voted for it if he'd posted his version, whereas the one I'd drawn only managed runner-up spot. :-\
Actually, I agreed with them... ditto ;D
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I'd love to see one of his Beau Peep sketches.
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Actually, I agreed with them... ditto ;D
And that's without seeing my version. :'(
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I'd love to see one of his Beau Peep sketches.
I don't have any of those, and that would probably involve technological advances that are as yet unsafe and far from fully developed, like Roger using a scanner.
But the good news is I have permission to show you loads more of Roger's gag cartoons, drawn by his own fair hand, as previously published only in the caption competition.
Don't all rush at once.
Here's another while you think about it...
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Yeah, but he can't do algebra.
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;D ;D ;D
(referring to Roger's sketch, not Mince's comment)
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When I click on these, they start to download then disappear, leaving only a red cross.
Not that it matters---I've seen them before.
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When I click on these, they start to download then disappear, leaving only a red cross.
Not that it matters---I've seen them before.
There is a real irony in that, but I'm struggling to see it today.
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;D
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Shall we have another?
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Go away.
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Go away.
Aha - the old Aberdonian term for "Twist!". Another one it is, then...
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If this is just one big joke just to piss me off ....
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Ah, but can Roger draw a bicycle?
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A few years ago Roger very kindly sent me a set of his original scripts, which Andrew uses to draw the actual artwork, and I hope he doesn't mind me posting them up
here. The strips were published in the Star in October 2001, and I've included them to show how true Andrew keeps to the script (well, as long as he doesn't have his
radio on anyway ;) ).
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKSketchA.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKasprintedA.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKsketchB.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKasprintedB.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKSketchC.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKasprintedC.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKSketchD.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKasprintedD.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKSketchE.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKasprintedE.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKSketchF.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/nomad2010/BP%20Sketches/RKasprintedF.jpg)
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If this is just one big joke just to piss me off ....
Now, why the Hell would I waste my time with that aim, Mincey? These are bloody good cartoons, written and drawn by Roger, and therefore (I'd have thought) of genuine interest to everyone here, especially bearing in mind that Roger does not consider himself to be a cartoonist as such (I disagree).
Now that Rob has kindly reached the parts that my posting of these cartoons obviously couldn't, I sincerely hope you'll manage to gather enough good grace to climb out of your hissy fit and rejoin the human race.
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Where's a crossed-armed sulky smiley when you need one?
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If this is just one big joke just to piss me off ....
......... rejoin the human race.
Doesn't that presuppose that he was, at some time, part of the human race?
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Brilliant sketches, Roger. (Where the hell's an envy smiley when you want/need one!)
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Loved the cartoons, Roger. Thanks, Tarks.
Excellent post, Rob, and a perfect example of what this forum is about - Beau Peep, cartooning, historical reference and a glimpse into the developmental aspects of a comic strip. Funny as well! :) :) :) :) :)
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With all these cartoonists and creative people on this forum, why don't we have such smilies as requested?
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Thanks, Rob.
Now, is there anything else, Mr Mince?
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Yes - these are works of genius.
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All excellent, Roger! Love the North Pole one. 8)
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I am just seeing these today - very cool Roger!
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Mince has gone quiet. I hope he realises that we still consider him to be a vital part of our small and friendly community even if he is talentless and a bit ugly.
As mates we should all try and help him get a bird; maybe making positive and hopefully helpful suggestions. I saw a thing on the news tonight about the effectiveness of face-transplants. Medical science is progressing at a great rate of knots these days.
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Worth a try. They could put his face onto the body of someone with charisma.
I'm glad there has been a decent level of appreciation, Mince excepted, to Roger's cartoons. It gives me an excuse to post more...
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And another...
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One more for now - you can get too much of a good thing...
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Thank you Roger for the cartoons. And thank you Tarks for showing them to us.
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- ditto - ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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More? :D
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No, please, no!
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Did someone say something?
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Actually, that last one is interesting, in that it was almost universally acclaimed as the worst caption challenge in the (then) 15-week history of the competition, particularly in it's awkward phraseology ("I think that's how it's always been." would have sat better). If I may enjoy a little self-indulgence, I actually beat Roger that week, and won the competition for the first time with the following...
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The dog won it!
Seriously, yours was a really clever gag for---as you say---a tricky caption that we all found difficult.
Talented b*******!
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Talented b*******!
Why bring ME into this?
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Why indeed. So we shan't.
Instead, here's another of Roger's cartoons, brilliantly utilising the caption I set having won the previous week's competition (did I mention that?)...
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Sadly, for Roger, it wasn't quite brilliant enough to beat this one, the eventual winner... for the second week running... (and not a weeing dog in sight!)...
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Love it, Tarks. You must have spent ages with the colouring pencils on this one.
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This was utterly brilliant, Tarks, and, if my memory serves me well, I voted it my number one.
(By the way, I don't think this whole thing has been explained to you all. These cartoons are from a friendly competition on a professional cartoonists' website. A caption is given and we have to come up with a cartoon to fit it). There are no prizes---it's all for fun.
It's annoyingly addictive, even for a non-artist like me.
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It's annoyingly addictive, even for a non-artist like me.
He's beginning to get right up my nose.
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He's beginning to get right up my nose.
Shudder! Does that make him the bogeyman?
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He's beginning to get right up my nose.
Shudder! Does that make him the bogeyman?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Moving not-so-swiftly on.
This one earned Roger his first silver medal, being pipped for the gold by just one vote (no, not by me)...
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And just the following week, Roger went one better and bagged the gold medal with this offering...
YAY!
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Back down to Earth with a thud two weeks later - this one saving him from a Crackerjack Pencil (awarded to entries that receive no votes) by a mere three points.
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Back up to fourth place with this one...
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Followed by Gold Medal number two with this little gem...
(and from the man who tells me he can't do caricatures, as well. TSK!)
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Well, I liked this one, even if very few others did... :P
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And lastly for now (but do tune in next week), Roger's third and biggest win to date, with exactly double the points of his nearest rival, I give you this...
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Thank you Tarks for keeping us informed and more than amused with Roger's cartoons. The "Eagles are twats" particularly made me chuckle, and the "someone and Garfunkle" reminded me of a particular penguin cartoon card I gave t'other half for her birthday many moons ago. It showed two penguins carrying a refrigerator over an ice bridge under which were sharks, etc. The punchline read "like a fridge over troubled waters". She still has not forgiven me for ruining her image of that song. Finally, I loved the diver returning the shark repellant (being a diver myself).
Keep up the good work and make sure Roger does too.
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Okay, let's put an end to all of this. I enjoy drawing, and I do it reasonably well, but I am NOWHERE near being able to do it at a professional level. That's why I am---and happy to be---a writer. As you all know by now, I sketch out my ideas before sending them to the artist but that's as far as it's ever going to go. I'm a "talented amateur". The real pros on here (Tarks, Nige and Malc) will, if they're being honest, tell you exactly the same thing. This is not false modesty on my part. I can certainly convey what I want to in a sketch but I am a million miles away from being capable of producing acceptable artwork for publishing. And that's the way I like it. I come up with ideas and then pass them on.
That's what I do.
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The humour still shines through, Roger.
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Okay, let's put an end to all of this. I enjoy drawing, and I do it reasonably well, but I am NOWHERE near being able to do it at a professional level. That's why I am---and happy to be---a writer. As you all know by now, I sketch out my ideas before sending them to the artist but that's as far as it's ever going to go. I'm a "talented amateur". The real pros on here (Tarks, Nige and Malc) will, if they're being honest, tell you exactly the same thing. This is not false modesty on my part. I can certainly convey what I want to in a sketch but I am a million miles away from being capable of producing acceptable artwork for publishing. And that's the way I like it. I come up with ideas and then pass them on.
That's what I do.
You know what, Roger, and I'm being totally serious here, but I couldn't disagree more. Your drawing style is utterly charming and very perceptive - you know what you want to convey, and the vast majority of the time, you achieve it with the ideal weight to your drawings. All of these cartoons ably demonstrate this, I believe.
I'm not saying you could replace Andrew or t'other Roger - you couldn't, not for the partnerships they currently have with you. And sadly, the spec gag market is only a very pale shadow of its former self, so it would be very difficult for you to prove me right, but I'm certain, in its heyday, should you have wanted to sell your own cartoons in the spec market, you'd have had no problem at all, and would have held your own with the best of them.
And unless you specifically ban me from doing so, I'd like to keep on posting these - we haven't even got to Peepsie's favourite yet.
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I'm having trouble seeing them - the get right program kicks in. Could you not just reduce them before you put them up Tarqs?
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I'm having trouble seeing them - the get right program kicks in. Could you not just reduce them before you put them up Tarqs?
My apologies, Diane. I didn't look too closely at the file sizes initially, forgetting you don't have broadband.
I've now replaced all of them with much smaller versions, so hopefully you can now easily go back and see any you missed without too much waiting. And I'll keep sizes in mind if Roger ever lets me post any more.
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Tarks, you're more than welcome to post any of my stuff you want. I was just trying to point out the difference between what I do and the top quality work produced by the likes of yourself. (Thanks for the kind words, by the way).
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Oh, and I can see them now! They're ******* brilliant!
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I can even see them properly on the thin wiggly amps thingy made by oranges, without having to click on the attached file. Ta very much, Tarks.
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Thanks Tarqs!
I find the drawing style charming Roger :)
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More wit from the Kettle pen...
This was Roger's own choice of caption, having won the previous week, and it netted him the bronze medal.
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This one was actually Roger's second choice for this particular week. I'll explain why in the next post, but it got him yet another bronze that week, narrowly missing out on the silver by one point.
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So, here we have Roger's first choice for that week, but when he logged in to post it, he found that some other blighter had beaten him to the Moses theme, hence the hasty rethink. I also include that other blighter's entry, to illustrate the point. Said blighter probably did Roger a favour, mind you, since he got far fewer votes than Roger for his Moses effort.
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And finally for now, and just outside the medals that week, there's this...
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Roger - loved the snail (that word is just priceless and apt sometimes). The pandas were great.
Tarks - the effort you must go to to produce your cartoons. There's so much life in them - I particularly liked the sniggering going on in the background. And, thank you again for posting these cartoons by yourself and Roger.
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Cheers, Bill. My pleasure!
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Yes, thanks for doing all this, Tarks. It's quite interesting---even for me---to see this stuff again.
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By the way, you draw a great snigger!
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By the way, you draw a great snigger!
Yeah, perhaps, but I bet he can't draw three bunches of kids, carrying three banners saying "Team Chocolate", "Team Zyon" and "Team Ragee", with a referee in the middle, and a banner behind saying "Team Wars", and the kids challenging each other with pointed fingers.
Bet he can't do that.
In colour.
1600px by 400px preferably.
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Bet you five hundred quid I can!
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Bet you five hundred quid I can!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yeah, perhaps, but I bet he can't draw three bunches of kids, carrying three banners saying "Team Chocolate", "Team Zyon" and "Team Ragee", with a referee in the middle, and a banner behind saying "Team Wars", and the kids challenging each other with pointed fingers.
Bet he can't do that.
In colour.
1600px by 400px preferably.
Bet you five hundred quid I can!
Prove it!
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Roger, I think when you have reached 200 cartoons, you should put a book together like Nige did. I would buy a few!
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I think it's clear from this topic that Roger is both modest and something of a perfectionist, and won't publish something that he personally doesn't believe is of a high enough standard to warrant publishing, even though others may disagree.
Personally, I'd be be glad to have any old crap published if people were gullible enough to buy it and it made me a few quid.
Diane, would you like to buy my picture of a house?
(http://i36.tinypic.com/34r7sd1.jpg)
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I can see this starting off a bidding war. Diane, you go first.
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I do believe I can add value to this masterpiece, Diane.
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The smoke ruins it.
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I didn't say I was an artist. And I was cold, so put the fire on.
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Diane, don't buy it. There are signs of subsidence; there's no gate, and where are the roses round the front door?
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I put hours of work into that, and you've gone and ruined it with your unnecessary modifications!
I imagine this is how Roger feels whenever Andrew spontaneously feels the need to replace words in his script with other random and nonsensical words.
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Yeah, perhaps, but I bet he can't draw three bunches of kids, carrying three banners saying "Team Chocolate", "Team Zyon" and "Team Ragee", with a referee in the middle, and a banner behind saying "Team Wars", and the kids challenging each other with pointed fingers.
Bet he can't do that.
In colour.
1600px by 400px preferably.
Bet you five hundred quid I can!
Prove it!
Prove what, Feather? Do you want to take on the bet? I'm happy to cover you both.
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Prove you can do what Mince asked, Tarquin. :P
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Oh, I think he already knows I can, Feather. That's why he hasn't touched the bet. But I'm happy to open the bet to you or anyone else if you want to take the gamble. I'll get my calculator... (why isn't there an 'avariciously rubbing hands' smiley?)
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Okay, then, Tarks, I bet you £500 that CAN'T do it! Stick that in your ... er, nope, that doesn't work either. Erm, I bet you £500 that you can't do it without me giving you £500, so er ... hang on.
I'll get back to you.
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I'll get back to you.
Bet you don't.
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I bet you one sketch as detailed above that I do.
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Bet you've got a smug grin on your face. Bet it won't last. No.
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I think it's clear from this topic that Roger is both modest and something of a perfectionist, and won't publish something that he personally doesn't believe is of a high enough standard to warrant publishing, even though others may disagree.
Personally, I'd be be glad to have any old crap published if people were gullible enough to buy it and it made me a few quid.
Diane, would you like to buy my picture of a house?
(http://i36.tinypic.com/34r7sd1.jpg)
That is a mighty fine piece of rustic folk art you have there Jack. I would offer you 5 GBP for it but I would just be taking advantage.
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Diane, would you like to buy my picture of a house?
(http://i36.tinypic.com/34r7sd1.jpg)
That is a mighty fine piece of rustic folk art you have there Jack. I would offer you 5 GBP for it but I would just be taking advantage.
SOLD!
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So, where was I? Oh, yes...
More deceptively simple but highly effective caricatures from Roger...
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This was Roger's entry for the first of our 'themed' weeks, which required us to draw captionless cartoons to a given theme, in this case, 'SPRINGTIME'. Lovely gag, but I think penalised by the opinion of the voters that Roger merely crammed a caption into the sign on the stage, and forced the Spring aspect into a gag that didn't actually need it, hence only four points that week. Other than that, it was utterly brilliant, of course.
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And then there was this one...
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Thumbs up for the last three cartoons. ;D
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Thanks for the nudge, Diane. We now come to a bit of a classic, and probably Peepsie's favourite... (warning - contains foul asterisks)...
This one earned Roger a silver medal.
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Of course, the winner that week had to be top quality to beat Roger. This was it... (warning - viewers of a nervous disposition shouldn't eat nuts)...
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You learn something new everyday - I didn't know the Big Bad Wolf's name before viewing this.
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Well done on the silver medal Roger. How many people participate in the caption drawing contests, just out of curiosity.
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It varies, Diane----anything from 14 or 15 to a couple of dozen.
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Usually two though.